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INTERVIEW WITH COPERNICUS X      Bandera España

 
 

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LEEDS, ENGLAND, EU , THE 9th OF APRIL, 2051
  It’s cold in Leeds, England. The air-taxi drops us off on the railing of some kind of Pompeian villa, in the northwest of the city, the huge ancestral home is property of the Claymstrom Corporation and is located just a few kilometers away from their headquarters. We would have taken a little bit longer if the journey from the space-port had been made by land, the industrial city of the metropolitan county of Yorkshire Occidental is synonymous with communication, paradigm of the intersection, crossing of paths like a Constantinople of the twenty-first century. Further out from the villa we contemplate how agricultural fields stretch out as far as the eye can see. Is Leeds, with its heart divided between industrial and agrarian, a metaphor for the figure that we are going to interview, between artificial and natural? Or is he himself the metaphor? There’s no need for a sensor to detect us, a thin man, under a wide brimmed straw hat, with jeans and an ivory colored wool jersey, comes out as we arrive and opens the door for us. A strange thing: We have been advised to avoid him stepping on us. His deceptive and stylish appearance hides more than one-hundred kilograms of weight.   
 
"I am not a human being and I don’t have the calling to be an impostor. You created me in image and similarity, nothing more."- After the biblical sentence he smiles at us again: it’s impossible to know what he thinks. Centuries of psychology today are worth nothing, except that what we have in front of us could be a mental reflex of its creators, an extreme that he just denied.

-Good afternoon, Miss Guinizelli, Mr. Neuropixel- he comments, looking at us, the cameraman and me. He then glues his eyes on me and infers: Or would you prefer that I call you Violeta? Our host possesses perfect intonation and a firm voice, although characteristic, maybe in between baritone and the famous Rod Stewart. He’s neither handsome nor ugly, nor the just the opposite, although he does have balanced features, in any case, and just like at the press conference, he has disarmed us with his exquisite modals.

-Violeta, please, once perfetta, now provoleta, because I still haven’t shaken hands with him and I’ve already melted, like this cheese fondue. Someone from the magazine had to come and I won. –So he reaches his hand out to us and we notice something that, stupidly, disappoints us a little bit: His texture, his roughness and elasticity is identical to that of a humans’ but not his temperature, it’s as frigid as the environment. He notices our startled little jump, smiles, and ushers us into the house. The coffee that he made is boiling, as if a compensation. 

FT: We understand that you are conscious of the transcendence of this interview, - We decided to speak to him in the formal way in Spanish, “Usted”: this way we felt more comfortable thinking that we were interviewing “someone”. –Thank you for your time, Mr. Copernicus.

COPERNICUS: I’m very pleased to be here with you. Adjectival with the word “transcendent”, for its unusualness, I guess. Julio Cortazar wrote tales impregnated with such characteristic, where time detained, action slowed down. We dispose of all that is needed, just like in the tales by that Argentinean author, during which you can make the most insignificant detail first-rate, in the category of the micro-cosmos, if you want. Today we won’t look at our watches, if you agree, dividing time absurdly into fractions, deceivably more sizeable than it all untamed.    

FT: Agreed. We won’t put any more limits on it other than the biological necessities of my colleague and me. By the way, when we were coming around, upon seeing the duality that Leeds encloses, we thought..

COPERNICUS: ….I’d rather be called a metaphor than an appliance, I assure you…-he comments in a dramatic effect that surprises us. His logical deduction capacity is well greased, without a doubt. –But, choosing, I am more inclined to be confused with a home appliance than with a human, thus contradicting what my appearance shows. I am not a human being and I don’t have the calling to be an impostor. You created me in image and similarity, nothing more.- After the biblical sentence he smiles at us again: it’s impossible to know what he thinks. Centuries of psychology today are worth nothing, except that what we have in front of us could be a mental reflex of its creators, an extreme that he just denied. So we decide to act on instinct and forget about the scripted questions. We have been in worse moments…well... no, but we tell ourselves that.

FT: Why then, the human form? Why aren’t you a huge sphere with twelve tentacles? And while we’re there, why wasn’t that sharp brain placed within the curves of a woman?

COPERNICUS: Good. In order: Human beings have molded the World to their own anthropometry. That mug has a handle whose maximum point of opening is 5.5 centimeters, which permits any normal person to grasp it comfortably with two or three fingers. I can handle all kinds of tools or play the piano, wear a standard sized shirt or go up/down the same ladder rungs as you. That huge sphere wouldn’t go through doors or be well-viewed, in the case of being able to enter, in a public library or a plane. It’s about having an appearance that, at the same time as being the most useful possible to complete my mission, doesn’t...
 
Are you referring to that cinematographic cannibal assassin considered to be the most intelligent in the history of film? Ha ha ha. I’ll be compared to Anibal, but sincerely, I prefer the General from Cartagena, more epic, a great strategist and quite a lot less Machiavellian… 
 

represent a psychological threat to those around me. If an extraterrestrial wanted to camouflage himself within us, at the same time as gain admission in the furthermost corner of his civilization, he would wear shoes and comb his hair in the morning. In the second place, I’ll tell you that the fact that I look like a man doesn’t have the most minimum sexist connotation: Claymstrom Corporation decided randomly, by chance, the “sex” of the first unit of my series. I’ll tell you that the debut of my “sister” Gabriela X will be ready around the middle of December.   


FT:
Gabriela? Is that for the Nobel Prize winning Chilean writer Gabriela Mistral? When you say ready, set, we understand that your “software” needs a learning period, according to what the neuro-psychiatrist of the company, Kumi Kaioto told us. How much time does your brain need to learn that the ocean drenches, to distinguish between the three most famous “Armstrongs”, to move your center of gravity on windy days or to sweet talk a woman? Did Copernicus I, II exist…until arriving at you?

COPERNICO: You are a knowledgeable and astute woman, Violeta. You instantly discarded Gabriela de Saboya, the old Queen of Spain, for belonging to the political world and not the scientific-cultural one. Yes, my colleague carried the pseudonym of the poet and southern diplomat. –He answers softening us up, showing us in this way his fine sense of humor. – With respect to my learning process, I assure you that it was long. Those versions did exist, but only captured in a computer, not as physical entities. Every numerical leap represented another qualitative at an intellectual level. From the time I have become conscious of “me”, fifteen years, three months and twelve days have passed, and it seems that eight more years have passed from the time that they conceived my neuronal/quantum matrixes…  

FT: ...The first sounds like a condemnation. Condemned to exist and be conscious of it.

COPERNICUS: Absolutely not. I assure you that I’m thrilled. It’s that, at that time, my intellectual fundamentals were very rudimentary, my mind was the equivalent of a lobotomized dung-beetle…

FT: …Well, we have faith that your learning process, although slow, has been effective and from being a psycho-capado arthropod you have become similar to a Hannibal Lecter of machines, but the good version. Moreover, I can’t see you creating balls of excrement all over this beautiful room, I see you as gifted with functions for more elevated tasks. –So, for a new surprise, Copernicus X gets up from his seat in silence and sits behind an enormous grand piano that presides in his living room. He immediately dedicates a fragment of a piece of enormous beauty to us with clearly romantic shades. The android, after the demonstration, returns to his spot and smiles at us.

FT: I warn you that if you did that to impress us…you did! Franz Liszt? Joseph Haydn?

COPERNICO: Almost. Quintet in A major for piano, opus 114 by Franz Schubert. I don’t want you to think that I’m pretentious, I simply want to show you some of my capabilities: Orders from up top- he clarifies as to finish justifying himself.-Before you cited Lecter. Are you referring to that cinematographic cannibal assassin considered to be the most intelligent in the history of film? Ha ha ha. I’ll be compared to Anibal, but sincerely, I prefer the General from Cartagena, more epic, a great strategist and quite a lot less Machiavellian… 

FT: As if I hadn’t seen you, just like being behind a little turd, in the Punic wars, behind the Escipion. Well, after the hilarious pause we go on to more pragmatic subjects: Describe to me a normal day in your “life”, if you would.


If you ate or drank by accident, World sparks fly out of you, like in the old science-fiction movies? If this were the case, somebody who didn’t like you could use a cod fish and a Rioja wine instead of a gun or a knife.  
 

COPERNICUS: Oh, and I was having such a good time, ha ha ha. It’s a joke. Your answer: My days are never the same but I will give you a sprinkling of last week, for example, fusing them into just one, so that the readers can get a very approximate idea. My daily activity begins at 3:00 am, although strangely, the sun hasn’t come up yet. At this time I read my mail with the plan that the Company proposes for the day. Write “read” in quotations, if you would be so nice. I almost always have to give a conference or have interviews like this one, although not always as nice as this one, of course… 


FT:
Of course.

COPERNICUS: Before taking off in the air-mobile that the company sends me to get to the spaceport, I normally dispose of two hours of which I dedicate to preparing my appointments with people, printing out documents if necessary, analyzing memorandums, etcetera, and on the other hand, I arrange my clothes and tidy up the house. At this time I sometimes have a holo-call, normally from Claymstrom, where they outline the planning if needed. I use the trips to keep learning, on one hand, human culture…

FT: …in the widest sense of the expression, we guess….

COPERNICUS: You guess right: In the widest of all senses. This morning I reviewed the camel’s kids, from the fourth century BC, in what is now Dubai, and its socio-economic repercussions…and if I have extra time, after the interview, I will practice with the capital letters, the Merovingian Dynasty, with zoomorphic motives.

FT: How fun…

COPERNICUS: Well, for me it is. It comforts me to assimilate knowledge, although interrelating it is priceless. I was saying that, apart from cultural data, high and dry, I study the human customs, their psychology, their interaction with their fellow men and their environment. There, the mathematical possibilities really do blow up. You people are fascinating.  

FT: Thank you for the generic compliment. We can prove that in this field you are also a good student. Keep going, tell me more about “your” day.

COPERNICUS: I spend almost the whole day on trips and my encounters at universities and schools, institutions and official organizations, hotels, congresses, etcetera. Sometimes I stay overnight somewhere, although I recognize that I don’t really enjoy doing it. When I get back to this house, I consider it my home, I dedicate quite a few hours to doing bio-hard-soft maintenance tasks. Don’t ask me to get into too many specifics about the first one, please. I’m telling you for the good of your own stomachs. I’ve already been told various times that it isn’t very pleasant for you, for example, the “commotions” having to do with the collagen that covers me.  

FT: Don’t worry: Another day if you want we can exchange beauty secrets and, waxing and avocado masks.

COPERNICUS: Ah, I didn’t know about that last one, using lauraceaes for aesthetical hygiene.

FT: You don’t know how happy I am to hear that. Do you read? I mean, books? I say this because I see here that you have an extensive library. Is it one that you buy by the meter and color?

COPERNICUS: Ha ha ha. It’s not a backdrop. Those books are full of pages and, in turn, words, I assure you. With respect to your question, I’ll tell you that I don’t usually read in a physical way, the way that you understand the concept. I have a direct and permanent access to the Universal Web, nourishing myself heavily from it. What happens is that, sometimes, I have to contrast some data and I do it the old-fashioned way.  

FT: Aha. Let’s talk about what differentiates you from us. Excuse the stupidity, but obviously you don’t eat or drink. Right?

COPERNICUS: Obviously. If you stuck something in my mouth and I chewed it up, I wouldn’t even know how to swallow it.

FT: You don’t know what you’re missing…

COPERNICUS: That’s what they say. It seems that the god Omacahtl of Aztec mythology, who symbolized the happiness and the festive spirit, is still very tied to his energetic contribution and his daily vitamins. I’ll inform you of my technique for choosing this comment: I was going to use Baco to Dionysius but it seems that Greek and Roman mythology are very common.

FT: Thank you for that piece of information. If you ate or drank by accident, World sparks fly out of you, like in the old science-fiction movies? If this were the case, somebody who didn’t like you could use a cod fish and a Rioja wine instead of a gun or a knife.  

COPERNICUS: Ha ha ha. No: My creators took steps to prevent that contingency and right below my uvula I dispose of a small watertight compartment. They take care of me, believe it. I’m a very expensive toy.

FT: How….?

COPERNICUS: I’m sure that you, Violeta, and your superiors at the fabulous magazine that you work at, will understand that I keep that information to myself. Let’s say that I cost more than a luxury aero-mobile but less that the Nigeria’s GDP. Claymstrom’s dream is, precisely, to lessen my production...
 
Having discarded generic fears, a concrete one: Are you afraid, Copernicus X, of death?
 

...costs when there is a rise in demand. The problem is that my brain can’t introduce itself in a production chain, at least at this time. The work, which is almost art, that my programmers did, is more similar to that of an old goldsmith than to any other thing that sounds like an Industrial Revolution.


FT: I assure you that you are the Favergé Egg with the most expressive eyes that I’ve ever seen. I guess we have to conform with that really precise number that you gave me. Did they program you to capture irony? Tell me, at least, for what number did Claymstrom sign your insurance with Lloyds of London? Can you lie? As the great Groucho would say, answer the second question first.     

COPERNICUS: I can’t lie, explicitly, unless it is absolutely necessary to save a human life. That’s how I expressed it at the press conference when I was presented. I’m thinking about my side as a mediator in kidnappings. Yes, I can capture irony or antiphrasis, a rhetorical figure wisely used by the novelist Oscar Wilde, among others, and from what I see, used by yourself as well.

FT: I see that lying no, but you can omit the truth like the second number that I asked you for…

COPERNICUS: I try to use the technique of forgetting, in order not to deny anyone information in such a reiterated way, but I see that I can’t get one by you. I’m not allowed to give you this bit if information either, but I’ll trade it for another bit that you haven’t asked me for that could be interesting to you: I have no sex, therefore I can’t have any kind of relationship. This time I’m going to explain my technique to you that, undoubtedly, you have already discovered thanks to your great perceptiveness: It seems, that to derive ones attention to a subject of great interest, can be efficient in some cases.

FT: Wrapped up derivation, also, high doses of adulation…How fragile and proud us human beings are. Are we that easy? 

COPERNICUS: Well, you could be right about the first one, but I can’t show you all my cards, you must understand that. With respect to your simplicity, I categorically deny that. Next to you I have the amount of complexity that technology can close up in a container. I’m sorry, you see, I can’t answer 100% of your questions.

FT: Don’t worry, I’ll take charge, although my obligation is to at least try: They pay me to coax it out of you. Before, you cited the possibility of risking your life to negotiate with the bad boys. Can you feel anything similar to fear?

COPERNICUS: No. Obviously, in my matrix of instructions, at a low level, but well emphasized, are self-protection and conservation guidelines. This, evidently, can drive me to complex dilemmas, although it is clear that I should preserve human life above any other disquisition. I recognize that I feel a certain relief in knowing that I am a commercial exhibition model and I hope to never see myself in the tessitura of having to either save a child from breaking a leg or fearing my own self destruction. Nevertheless, it is clear to me that I would have to preserve the integrity of the child.

FT: Preserve human integrity and your own. You skipped the second robotic law of Asimov: A robot should always obey a human being provided that he doesn’t conflict with the first law (Never harm a human being).   

COPERNICUS: Good, now that’s an interesting subject. My creators obviated the second law, and excuse the pun, for obvious reasons. I can’t obey humans, apart from the ones that created me, being that I’m going to travel the world and interact with thousands of them. Imagine the chaos that it would be, in the middle of a conference, if an assistant asked me to go buy a telepathic amplifier and another told me the opposite, to keep talking. I admit that the complex problem in which I find myself, daily, is not to harm any human being… psychologically! In achieving it I use an important fraction of my neuronal/quantum resources.

FT: Aha, complex. If it serves as any consolation, the same thing happens to us. The truth is that you’ve put some of the last questions that I had prepared on a silver platter. Until now I have been improvising, but if I don’t formulate, my boss, Mr. Beltran, will arch that eyebrow that makes all the staff uncomfortable, like only he knows how to. Having discarded generic fears, a concrete one: Are you afraid, Copernicus X, of death?

COPERNICUS: This is when I should say “I’m glad you asked me that question Violeta.” I’m glad you asked me that question Violeta. The answer is NO. Every ten seconds the company makes a security copy of my whole system and gives out, at the speed of light, this information to three very distant servers, one of them in the External Colonies, by the way. If a missile fell on this house right now, they would reconstruct me, remembering my new “I” even with the last mention of your boss, the circumflex Mr. Galán. I would miss you, that’s for sure. I mean it. They gave me that capacity.

FT: That’s a great little show of appreciation, what you have. I just wanted to throw out the Antonio Machado quote: “We shouldn’t fear death, because when we are, death is not, and when death is, we are not.” So, you’ve got “back-ups”. To finish, a last question and a request. In this one, I might give myself away as an XX organism and it is, at a generic level, in the same direction as the last one about fear. Feelings?


COPERNICUS: Happiness? Sadness? Love? I’m afraid that my answer is negative once again, Miss Violeta. In my quantum physic part, definitely not. In my biological part, any attempt, for example, at an endorphin level, is quickly controlled by my other half. By definition, control is, in some aspects, and antonym to sentiments. I think it’s better like that. A bionic emotional robot could be an uncontrolled organism and this, I assure you, is bad news. As you know, the Claymstrom Corporation is a company that has a mercantile character, that is to say, it is a non-profit organization and it doesn’t hide that from anybody. I don’t deny that in some future a distant relative of mine could read William Shakespeare and feel totally identified with the passion of the characters. But not now.

 
Would Copernicus X dare to try writing for our magazine, Future
Times
? You could bring an exceptional perspective to the scientific-technological events of our time. It would be an honor to
convert into the first magazine that published non-human written articles.

FT: Good, good. Don’t ask me why, but your answer comforts me. Maybe because I think that, apart from you being prepared to live emotionally in society, I’m sure that this society is not prepared to live with bio-machines with heart. For sure. –we get up and offer our handshakes again to the cold hand of Copernicus. –I am authorized to make you a dishonest proposition, although a vertical one… 

COPERNICUS: Too bad…ha ha ha.

FT: The publication that I work for has become interested in your undeniable linguistic gifts and your eloquence, also in your amazing capacity for analysis and interrelations. Taking into account that it wouldn’t take you more than 0.6 seconds to write an article the size of this magazine, would Copernicus X dare to try writing for our magazine, Future Times? You could bring an exceptional perspective to the scientific-technological events of our time. It would be an honor to convert into the first magazine that published non-human written articles. We understand that you would have to consult with your creators and….  

COPERNICUS: …Excuse my interruption- and while he accompanies us to the door the android takes a document stamped with the Company’s name out of a box, signed by the General Director of the company, Soraya Arroyo. –I guessed your request and I already spoke with them. If you would be so nice, I would like you to personally hand this over to your boss, Mr. Galán Pozuelo: They are the conditions of my contract. I’ll tell you in advance that it would be an honor to collaborate with you.

FT: As you don’t have the capacity to get offended, with all possible fondness I have to say: You are the biggest know-it-all of all possible appliances.

Copernicus only smiles in silence.  

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